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re: Still think your browser isn't obsolete?
Thursday, March 4, 2010 at 3:59 pm
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Posted by gewg_ (4444 messages posted)


Arminius wrote:
|And all this new stuff is supposed to be a good thing?
|
Yup.
Do you ever run anything that requires ActiveX?
If so, you've already drunk the Kool-Aid.

The difference here is that ActiveX is M$-only
and CSS/JavaScript/HTML5 is what the Internet was **supposed** to be:
The same code Just Works(tm) no matter what software you use
(unless you use software that your vendor refuses to update).

|Once the novelty has worn off and the oohs and aahs have stopped
|it amounts to nothing more than frivolous web page bloat.
|
Again: That is thinking straight out of 2001.  This is NOT about "pages".

|Some web pages are bloated enough as it is these days
|yet web developers devise new code to keep adding more.
|
Yes, tech can get abused simply for the Gee Whiz factor[1]
but you're missing the BIG point.
Google's dropping IE6 support was the first serious shot fired in this round.
It's about ancient, non-conforming stuff that won't accomplish the tasks.
It's NOT about (static) "pages"[2]; it's about apps.
http://google.com/search?q=define:Cloud-Computing
http://google.com/search?q=define:Web-2.0

|Just because more and more people have faster and faster internet connections
|doesn't give web developers the green light eat up my bandwidth
|with more of their crap.
|
If you were using a modern browser with modern features,
you'd realize that it isn't 2001 any more.
You can weed out all the junk that you don't want to waste bandwidth on
(not to mention not giving your IP address
to idiots who you don't want to know that you even exist)
http://google.com/search?q=define:AdBlock-Plus
http://google.com/search?q=define:NoScript
http://google.com/search?q=define:FlashBlock
(NoScript makes FlashBlock obsolete.)

or don't want to waste screen space on.
http://google.com/search?q=define:Greasemonkey
http://google.com/search?q=Stylish+extension
http://google.com/search?q=inurl:userscripts.org/scripts/show

That is all Gecko stuff.
Opera does some of that.
Chrome does some tricks too
--but the browser from Google (an *ad* company) DOESN'T *block* anything,
the extensions for their stuff **hides** it on your screen _after_ it is downloaded
(and after your IP address is revealed).[3]

|If this is the kind of web development Microsoft held back for a decade
|then they deserve a medal for doing so.
|
Typical clueless M$ fanboy
who hasn't done his homework and doesn't know his options.  8-(
Just as Solitare is not necessary to have on your computer
(it's simply a useful tool to get a newbie familiar with the use of a mouse),
[1]these gimmick pages are to show you
what is possible **if** you have an up-to-date browser.

[2] Indeed, with portable devices becoming a huge factor,
least-common-denominator pagefeeds are becoming ever more important.
(Some sites have separate pages specifically for phones/handhelds.)

[3] The reason many folks haven't switched to Chrome
is because there isn't yet an AdBlock extension for it.




Written in response to:
re: Still think your browser isn't obsolete? (Arminius: Thursday, March 4, 2010 at 1:56 pm)

Responses to this message:
*re: Still think your browser isn't obsolete? (Arminius: Thursday, March 4, 2010 at 4:51 pm)

All messages in this thread [show all]
-Still think your browser isn't obsolete? (gewg_: Wed, Mar 3, 2010, 4:00 pm)
-re: Still think your browser isn't obsolete? (Arminius: Wed, Mar 3, 2010, 6:56 pm)
-re: Still think your browser isn't obsolete? (gewg_: Wed, Mar 3, 2010, 8:44 pm)
-re: Still think your browser isn't obsolete? (Arminius: Thu, Mar 4, 2010, 1:56 pm)
-re: Still think your browser isn't obsolete? (gewg_: Thu, Mar 4, 2010, 3:59 pm)
-re: Still think your browser isn't obsolete? (Arminius: Thu, Mar 4, 2010, 4:51 pm)
*re: Still think your browser isn't obsolete? (gewg_: Thu, Mar 4, 2010, 8:27 pm)
*re: Still think your browser isn't obsolete? (gewg_: Sat, Mar 20, 2010, 1:22 pm)
*re: Still think your browser isn't obsolete? (gewg_: Fri, Mar 26, 2010, 3:04 pm)
-re: Still think your browser isn't obsolete? (gewg_: Tue, Mar 30, 2010, 8:22 pm)
-re: Still think your browser isn't obsolete? (Arminius: Tue, Mar 30, 2010, 9:00 pm)
*re: Still think your browser isn't obsolete? (gewg_: Tue, Mar 30, 2010, 11:40 pm)
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